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Post by Icelandic Woman Sat May 19, 2012 10:05 am

Cheers Bass!!! Have a Fantastic Weekend!!! See you next week!! Very Happy

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Post by bass Sat May 19, 2012 10:01 am


Possible. I'd vote for her if she was running in my seat. I like her.

Thanks for posting icey.

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Post by Icelandic Woman Sat May 19, 2012 9:46 am

bass wrote:We Australians really don't care very much about PM's personal relationships. It's who you are and what you do that is most important to us. Clinton wouldn't have raised an eyebrow if he'd been PM here. we just don't care. It has no bearing on the role of leader.

And that is the way it should be!!! Iceland had the first woman president ever and now the first woman Bishop!!! If Hillary Clinton had run in Australia she probably would have been elected. Very Happy

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Post by bass Sat May 19, 2012 9:42 am

We Australians really don't care very much about PM's personal relationships. It's who you are and what you do that is most important to us. Clinton wouldn't have raised an eyebrow if he'd been PM here. we just don't care. It has no bearing on the role of leader.
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Post by Icelandic Woman Sat May 19, 2012 9:38 am

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Well, in Australia we have an unmarried woman in a defacto relationship who doesn't believe in God as our PM.

How'd she go as US Pres do you think?

Considering how far behind the times this country is not very well. LOL

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Post by bass Sat May 19, 2012 9:29 am


Well, in Australia we have an unmarried woman in a defacto relationship who doesn't believe in God as our PM.

How'd she go as US Pres do you think?
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Post by Icelandic Woman Sat May 19, 2012 9:23 am

bass wrote:
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Icelandic Woman wrote:I am sorry but the Repubs have not put up a viable candidate for this election and I think and hope it will be an uphill battle for them!!! Very Happy

Well icey you're from the US. Who do you think will be the Repub's contender for President?

Well it will be Romney but he has a slim chance to beat Obama. Again I hope. Very Happy

What do you make of this story about the Obamas? He's not really popular is he.

I have not heard this story Bass. I guess his popularity depends on which party you are a member of. He he

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Post by bass Sat May 19, 2012 9:11 am

Icelandic Woman wrote:
bass wrote:
Icelandic Woman wrote:I am sorry but the Repubs have not put up a viable candidate for this election and I think and hope it will be an uphill battle for them!!! Very Happy

Well icey you're from the US. Who do you think will be the Repub's contender for President?

Well it will be Romney but he has a slim chance to beat Obama. Again I hope. Very Happy

What do you make of this story about the Obamas? He's not really popular is he.
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Post by Icelandic Woman Sat May 19, 2012 9:05 am

bass wrote:
Icelandic Woman wrote:I am sorry but the Repubs have not put up a viable candidate for this election and I think and hope it will be an uphill battle for them!!! Very Happy

Well icey you're from the US. Who do you think will be the Repub's contender for President?

Well it will be Romney but he has a slim chance to beat Obama. Again I hope. Very Happy

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Post by bass Sat May 19, 2012 9:02 am

Icelandic Woman wrote:I am sorry but the Repubs have not put up a viable candidate for this election and I think and hope it will be an uphill battle for them!!! Very Happy

Well icey you're from the US. Who do you think will be the Repub's contender for President?
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Post by Icelandic Woman Sat May 19, 2012 8:22 am

I am sorry but the Repubs have not put up a viable candidate for this election and I think and hope it will be an uphill battle for them!!! Very Happy

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Post by Azaziel Thu May 17, 2012 2:08 pm

Romey thinks so, Paul has found a way to get delegates to vote, lets see I will get article for you on this

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Post by bass Thu May 17, 2012 2:02 pm

Azaziel wrote:Regarding Romney, he is not over the line yet, Ron Paul, won Romneys home three states and he could still win, even though he is a long way behind

Like I said, not my area of intense knowledge (unlike the Titanic) but you really think this Paul could be a threat to Romney?
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Post by Azaziel Thu May 17, 2012 12:29 pm

Regarding Romney, he is not over the line yet, Ron Paul, won Romneys home three states and he could still win, even though he is a long way behind

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Post by bass Thu May 17, 2012 9:35 am

http://www.goerie.com/article/20120517/NEWS02/305179927/Gannon's-Kozak%3A-Presidential-race-to-be-'extremely-close'

May 17, 2012

Gannon's Kozak: Presidential race to be 'extremely close'

By JOHN GUERRIERO, Erie Times-News

Political analyst David Kozak said he expects "a close and brutal'' campaign for the White House, but the negative tactics risk turning off the voters. "This is going to be a very close election -- extremely close,'' Kozak, professor of public policy at Gannon University, said Wednesday. He spoke before about 30 people at the Manufacturer & Business Association's "Eggs 'n' Issues'' briefing. A negative campaign carries tremendous risk, he said, that voters will become "turned off and tune out.''


Kozak said there are any number of unpredictable issues that could sway the election between President Barack Obama and presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney. Those "wild cards,'' he said, include the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling on the constitutionality of health-care reform, tensions between Israel and Iran, the economy and gasoline prices.


But, Kozak said, voters will have made up their minds about the state of the economy by mid- to late September.


Kozak, director of Gannon's Leadership Erie program, said Obama and Romney are vulnerable.

Kozak said the economy and trouble recapturing the enthusiasm of his 2008 race could be Obama's undoing, while Romney has an "image of being a flip-flopper.''



Kozak also criticized the large number of GOP debates, 25 in all, that had "a demolition derby kind of impact'' on what once had been a large Republican field. "They were new cars, and they were smashing each other,'' he said. Kozak said the party without control of the White House lacks discipline in a presidential race.


"Who could go to (Newt) Gingrich and say, 'Sit down and shut up?''' Kozak asked. Gingrich stopped campaigning for the GOP nomination late in the primary season after his campaign failed to gain traction. Meanwhile, Kozak said, Republicans have a good chance of taking the Senate this election cycle, which could give them control of both chambers.


Kozak said this cycle is the first in history with a Democratic president, a Democratic Senate and a Republican House. "It doesn't work very well, can I tell you?'' he said.


Congress is dysfunctional, with neither side talking to each other, he said. Kozak also offered his opinion about potential running mates for Romney, saying the keys to the selection are: "Do no harm,'' and don't choose a fresh face that would be "red meat for the media.''


He suggested that Tom Ridge, the former Pennsylvania governor and former secretary of Homeland Security, would be a good choice because he would be prepared to step in as president. He also knows and has worked with Congress. But Kozak said Ridge's chances would be hurt by his abortion rights stance.
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Post by bass Wed May 16, 2012 3:49 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2145035/Michelle-Obama-prepared-divorce-papers-separate-Barack-leaving-suicidal.html

New book claims Michelle Obama prepared divorce papers to separate from Barack - leaving him so depressed friends feared he'd kill himself
15 May 2012

Michelle Obama prepared divorce papers to separate from Barack Obama in 2000 following his disastrous attempt to win a House seat in Chicago, according to a new book. When he lost miserably the future First Lady was supposedly disgusted that her husband had ignored her warnings not to take on the four term incumbent Bobby Rush. Their marriage - in its eighth year at the time - was ‘on the rocks’ with Mr Obama so depressed some of his friends feared he was suicidal.

The couple have admitted that in the past they did go through a rough patch but that they patched things up and grew closer together. The Obamas have now been married for 21 years and have two children, Malia, 13, and Sasha, nine.

In ‘The Amateur’, Mr Klein’s unauthorised account of Mr Obama’s life and first term in office, he claims that Mr Obama was over ambitious in his attempt to take on House member Mr Rush for the black South Side seat in Chicago. In a crushing blow, he lost by two votes to one prompting claims from Mr Rush that he was an ‘educated fool’. Mr Klein writes: ‘After Obama’s humiliating defeat he was broke and deeply in debt and it looked as though he might be finished in public life.

‘During the dark days that followed his defeat, he turned to Michelle for comfort. But she was in no mood to offer him sympathy.

‘After all he had refused to listen to her warnings about taking on the formidable Bobby Rush. He had put his family in a precarious financial position. And he had dashed Michelle’s hopes of creating a stable and secure future.

‘As a result their marriage was on the rocks, and Obama confided to friends that he and Michelle were talking about divorce. ‘Michelle actually had divorce papers drawn up’, one of her friends told me’. In desperation Mr Obama begged friends to help him open an office to stay in politics - but did not tell his wife for fear of her wrath if she found out. The couple appear to have worked out their differences, however - Mr Obama ran for a Senate seat in Illinois and won it in, assuming office in 2005 and restoring his wife's faith in him.


The Amateur also includes a number of other claims about Mr Obama, including an interview with his former pastor Jeremiah Wright which could ignite the debate about his religion.

During the 'birther' row about where Mr Obama was born he faced repeated accusations that not only was he born in Kenya, he was in fact a Muslim and not a Christian as he claims to be.

Asked by Mr Klein if he converted Mr Obama from Islam to Christianity, Mr Wright said: ‘That’s hard to tell.

‘I think I convinced him that it was okay for him to make a choice in terms of who he believed Jesus is. And I told him it was really okay and not a put down of the Muslim part of his family or his Muslim friends’.

Mr Obama was supposedly known as ‘Black Jesus’ by his former senior campaign adviser David Axelrod because of his messiah complex, Mr Klein writes.

He also had a run-in with Steven Rogers, a wealthy businessman who became the Gund Family Distinguished Professor of Entrepreneurship at Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management.

Damning: The book also details Michelle's jealousy over her husband, claiming that the First Lady is paranoid that he'll cheat on her
Early in his campaign for the U.S. Senate he gave Mr Obama $3,000 and arranged for thousands more dollars to be donated to him on one condition: he come and speak at the school when he got elected.

After becoming a Senator Mr Obama is said to have gone back on his offer because he was too busy and told Mr Rogers: ‘Come on man, you should know better when politicians make promises’.

In a furious tirade Mr Rogers screamed at him: ‘You’re a dirty rotten m*****f*****. What kind of s*** are you trying to pull? F*** you, you big-eared m*****f*****.’

A year later Mr Obama finally showed up but by then Mr Rogers’ had all but written him off as a friend.

In extracts which had already been made public Mr Klein claims that Mrs Obama is so jealous of her husband receiving female attention she orders women who are close to him in the White House to be watched.

The First Lady is supposedly paranoid Mr Obama will cheat on her as John F Kennedy did to his wife.

In the book he adds more detail and claims when Mr Obama was studying at Harvard as a law student she would fly into jealous rages when she saw him with other women.

She was supposedly so territorial that she ‘drove a lot of Barack’s friends away’, Mr Klein writes.

The only reason they got married at all was that Mrs Obama ‘insisted’ upon it - because she wanted to ‘remake him’ as she wanted and not let him have an easy life.

The book claims that once her husband assumed office she began to wield power behind the scenes to such an extent that Mr Obama shares a ‘co-presidency’ with her. Mr Klein also alleges that Mr Obama twice snubbed Caroline Kennedy, the daughter of former U.S. President John F Kennedy, and that he and Mrs Obama privately made disparaging comments about her family - and even their clothes.

He writes: ‘Caroline heard there was a lot of nasty s**** being said about the Kennedys by the president and Michelle. ‘There were catty remarks about how badly the Kennedy women dressed and how their houses were shabby and threadbare.

‘Caroline got the impression that most of this negativity was coming from Michelle, who didn’t want the Kennedys to be part of the administration for fear that they would have too much influence over the president.’ Among others who were also shut out of the White House were Oprah Winfrey who Mr Klein claims was given the cold shoulder for being too fat.

The title of the book comes from a supposed outburst last August by former U.S. President Bill Clinton who branded Mr Obama ‘an amateur’.

He also urged his wife Hillary to quit her post as U.S. Secretary of State and challenge Mr Obama for the Democratic ticket in this year’s elections, telling her: ‘Your country needs you! Your country needs us!’ The White House has denounced the book and said that Mr Klein has a record for making things up. Mr Clinton has also denied he insulted the President.

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